The New York Times, September 25, 2001 Liberals' Ideology Challenged by Urge to Fight Terrorism By Felicia R. Lee For many liberals in New York, these are confusing times, as they try to balance their ideals about what the nation should be with their fears of a crisis that threatens to dwarf issues like civil liberties and racism. Some believe that Americans for now have to put aside their differences on issues like supporting the president or accepting racial profiling in order to identify terrorists. Others argue that the worst outcome of the terrorist attacks would be for Americans to follow authorities blindly into war or to tamp down their criticism of social ills. In dozens of interviews across the New York area, ordinary men and women, as well as those active in organizations working for social change, talked about what it meant to be liberal after Sept. 11. "We have to cherish our rights as leftists, as liberals," said Maurice Berger, 45, a cultural and social critic who lives on the Upper West Side and is a senior fellow at the New School University. "I don't want to see the country turn its back on civil liberties, when people's phones are tapped or people are pulled off planes because their skins are dark." But Betsy Llanos, 32, a sales clerk at the Columbia University bookstore, who calls herself "very liberal," said, "We wouldn't have so many problems if we would inspect these people from other countries." New York City has historically voted Democratic and has been more supportive of abortion rights, labor unions and gays than much of the rest of the nation. It is a measure of the times that with the mayoral primary today -- and the efforts to extend Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani's tenure -- even many liberals say Mr. Giuliani has been great in the last two weeks. "If we knew that we were going to have a tragedy like this every six months, I'd love to have Giuliani," said Bill Rosenthal, a Hunter College professor who was attending a peace rally at Columbia University yesterday. "People are forgetting what happened before Sept. 11 and the problems we had," he said, mentioning his particular dislike of Mr. Giuliani's school budget cuts. Many liberals are worried that patriotism will be narrowly identified as the province of some groups or some political ideologies. At the New York Urban League in Harlem, its president, Dennis M. Walcott, said there were many blacks and dark-skinned Hispanics proudly waving flags and yet wincing at the idea that Arab-Americans could be racially profiled the same way they are. On the Columbia campus, some students who think of themselves as liberal said they sensed a change in acceptance of public criticism of the country or President Bush. "Three weeks ago, it was O.K. to be a dissident" said Jason Paez, 20, a junior majoring in economics. "Now, it's our duty to stand together. We are facing a lot worse than a president with a low I.Q. and delusions of grandeur." Many who are otherwise dovish said their feelings about military response were complicated because the enemy is not so clear and this time the personal losses hit so close to home. "I think if you raise the political consequences of the attack, people see you as heartless," said Andrew Stettner, the executive director of Jews for Racial & Economic Justice. Mr. Stettner said that although he saw a continuing robust liberal commitment to civil liberties, "I've been surprised that a lot of people are willing to support a level of military action that they would not have accepted before." Along those lines, Judith Stallwert, 51, a secretary in Montclair, N.J., said, "In college, I joined movements against the war in Vietnam, but I don't think I would join protests this time, for this war. I don't want to see people die and I don't want to raise my children during a horrible time. On the other hand, I don't want my grandchildren to one day live in a world with terrorism and fear."